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Feb 27, 2004 14:18:16 GMT -5
Post by LS on Feb 27, 2004 14:18:16 GMT -5
Now, the Boston hierarchy purportedly took a dim view of the A-Rod deal based solely on the adverse impact it would have on the overall economics of MLB. They would have you believe that their objection was not related to the need to maintain competitive balance in baseball (this argument wouldn't hold water in Boston anyway, since Boston is equally as stacked as the Yankees). Ah yes, those noble Red Sox execs, always looking out for the little man, the fan. The reality of course is that, when it comes to bidding wars that throw the economics of baseball out of whack, the Red Sox don't exactly cower in the shadows. They wheel and deal (and SPEND) with just as much gusto as Steinbrenner. So, it is not a little hypocritical that Boston has taken the lead in vilifying the Yankees for continuing to create economic chaos. Well Shooter then it would seem the truth of the matter is, it's merely the lastest chapter in the ongoing saga of constant bickering and sour grapes between the Yankees & Red Sox...which has only gone on since the days of the Great Bambino Those who aren't Yankee/Red Sox fans really aren't interested in the latest brouhaha and round of hypocrisy between the two teams...one man does not a team make (unless of course he's soooo good he can play all 9 positions simultaneously, can pitch 9 or more straight innings day in, day out and can also swing a bat with the utmost authority). We were all last blugeoned nearly to death with Steinbrenner's Giambi over-hype, which shortly thereafter proved that point. It would appear the only people who seem to understand that concept is the fans.
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Mar 2, 2004 11:55:43 GMT -5
Post by Mr._Shooter on Mar 2, 2004 11:55:43 GMT -5
LS, you indeed are correct: the bluster emanating from Fenway has everything to do with the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry and nothing to do with the economics of baseball. Baseball fans who pledge allegiance to other teams may not care about the ongoing hype, but they surely will flock to see A-Rod and the rest of the Yankees when they come to town this summer.
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Mar 11, 2004 18:30:38 GMT -5
Post by Wildrider on Mar 11, 2004 18:30:38 GMT -5
Looks like SAM has been keeping everyone up on the extremes of Phoenix weather. Here's some for you: Last Friday the high was 63F. On Monday, it was 92F. Today it was 92F on the time/temp clock on my way home, but I don't know what the "official" is going to be. It's like we went directly from winter to summer in two days.
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Mar 11, 2004 23:16:56 GMT -5
Post by LS on Mar 11, 2004 23:16:56 GMT -5
Been a little extreme here too Wildrider...Monday & Tuesday we had snow- and today we hit 60.
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Mar 11, 2004 23:21:05 GMT -5
Post by LS on Mar 11, 2004 23:21:05 GMT -5
LS, you indeed are correct: the bluster emanating from Fenway has everything to do with the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry and nothing to do with the economics of baseball. Baseball fans who pledge allegiance to other teams may not care about the ongoing hype, but they surely will flock to see A-Rod and the rest of the Yankees when they come to town this summer. Well Shooter...I wouldn't exactly say it has absolutely nothing to do with the economics- it does. It's just in this particular instance it's simply the pot calling the kettle black. But over the weekend I did overhear an interesting theory from a few Yankee fans bemoaning the past few seasons. As the Red Sox have 'The Curse of the Bambino' hanging over them, there seems to be some Yankee fans who claim they've fallen victim to the 'Curse of the Elephant.' One <ahem> gentleman pointed out that since 1958, the Yankees have not won a series while there was a Republican in the White House. They sat and ran them down- and unless there was something they missed...it did seem to work out to be true...most glaringly that looooong stretch starting with Reagan and continuing through Bush 1. Of course no one mentioned who may have put this possible hex on 'em...but a very interesting theory indeed. ;D
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Mar 12, 2004 0:14:07 GMT -5
Post by Roughneck on Mar 12, 2004 0:14:07 GMT -5
:oWow, interesting! Hmmmm, decisions, decisions. which is the lesser of two evils?
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Mar 12, 2004 9:24:45 GMT -5
Post by Mr._Shooter on Mar 12, 2004 9:24:45 GMT -5
Well Shooter...I wouldn't exactly say it has absolutely nothing to do with the economics- it does. It's just in this particular instance it's simply the pot calling the kettle black. But over the weekend I did overhear an interesting theory from a few Yankee fans bemoaning the past few seasons. As the Red Sox have 'The Curse of the Bambino' hanging over them, there seems to be some Yankee fans who claim they've fallen victim to the 'Curse of the Elephant.' One <ahem> gentleman pointed out that since 1958, the Yankees have not won a series while there was a Republican in the White House. They sat and ran them down- and unless there was something they missed...it did seem to work out to be true...most glaringly that looooong stretch starting with Reagan and continuing through Bush 1. Of course no one mentioned who may have put this possible hex on 'em...but a very interesting theory indeed. ;D The Yankees-BoSox dust-up is not about economics. The world vs. the Yankees, however, indeed is all about economics. That and a built-in disdain for the most "corporate" team in MLB. I get an earful from every non-Yankees fan I know. They know that, if they're really want to get my goat good, razzing me about the Yankees is the way to go. As for this Republican curse business, I have to admit my curiosity is up. I'll do some independent research and report back. 'Course, given that I have partners to answer to, I'll bill the research to you, LS.
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Mar 16, 2004 16:16:34 GMT -5
Post by LS on Mar 16, 2004 16:16:34 GMT -5
The Yankees-BoSox dust-up is not about economics. Oh heck sure it is...the louder the fussing gets, the more free publicity they get and the more butts they get to fill their seats. ;D Sadly ALL sports teams are nothing but 'corporations' these days. The only difference between them is- most owners keep a low profile and stay out of the spotlight leaving things to the people they hire to run their teams. Unfortunately the disdain for 'the Yankees' has far less to do with 'the Yankees' than it does with Steinbrenner. There was a lot of backlash against the Cowboys for a while because of Jerry Jones...football's counterpart to Steinbrenner...and it's only fairly recently died down since he finally decided to sit down and shut up (for the most part). Well Shooter- if your research turns up some credibility to the theory...then I'd say Steinbrenner'd be more than happy to have had his problems figure out...so you can send him the bill, send me my 20% finder's fee and he can make a nice big campaign contribution to Kerry... ;D
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Mar 17, 2004 22:30:57 GMT -5
Post by Mr._Shooter on Mar 17, 2004 22:30:57 GMT -5
A 20% finder's fee? Gee, you ought to join my profession, LS. ;D Seriously, my initial stab at the research revealed the following: The Yankees haven't won a World Series with a Republican in the White House since 1958. The Yankees have played 40 seasons with a Democrat in the White House. Their World Series record during this time is 19 wins, 3 losses. The Yankees have played 43 seasons with a Republican in the White House. Their World Series record during this time is 7 wins, 10 losses. If Kerry is the intangible that will win the Yankees the Series in 2004, I'll take a long walk off a short pier and trade in my pinstripes for, oh, a Brooklyn Dodgers cap (what, did you think I'd say a Mets cap?) . Now, I have no use for Bush at this point. His compassionate conservatism has morphed into a domestic tin ear and a lousy grasp of international politics. But I simply cannot stomach Kerry, who's about as inspiring as a Times Square huckster. Thus, the historical connection between Democratic administrations and Yankees' success has rendered me apopleptic.
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Mar 19, 2004 16:08:29 GMT -5
Post by Wildrider on Mar 19, 2004 16:08:29 GMT -5
It got too hot here too fast for me to even realize that spring training had started. Heck, it's already high summer (unseasonably high temperatures, averaging at least 15 degrees above normal) -- we just skipped over spring. And since the Diamondbacks changed almost their entire lineup, I'm not even sure who my players are this year. Mr. Shooter, Kerry may not be all that, but I live in the happy land of "I'll vote for a log before I'll vote for Duhbya."
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Mar 20, 2004 0:05:31 GMT -5
Post by LS on Mar 20, 2004 0:05:31 GMT -5
After a gloriously spring-like 60 degree Monday...we've gotten about 5 inches of snow between Tuesday and today. A 20% finder's fee? Gee, you ought to join my profession, LS. ;D LOL!! I'm afraid Shooter- your profession's just a teensy bit too conservative for the likes of the freespirited LS. ;D Well what'da ya know...a Yankee fan who was right about something!! Stranger things have been known to happen Shooter...curses and superstitions are nothing to take lightly. ;D Well Shooter...we're not voting in a congeniality or beauty contest here - we're supposed to be voting for the most <likely to be> capable person...Sorry, DuHbya was never it- ever- and only went on to further reinforce beyond a reasonable doubt my original <low> opinions of him. I went to hear Kerry speak and came away satisfied that he's capable of at least starting the task of cleaning up the damage and mess created by these self-serving, so called 'compassionate Conservatives' ...so I'm with Wildrider in 'happy land' on this one.
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Mar 21, 2004 16:21:22 GMT -5
Post by Mr._Shooter on Mar 21, 2004 16:21:22 GMT -5
It got too hot here too fast for me to even realize that spring training had started. Heck, it's already high summer (unseasonably high temperatures, averaging at least 15 degrees above normal) -- we just skipped over spring. And since the Diamondbacks changed almost their entire lineup, I'm not even sure who my players are this year. Mr. Shooter, Kerry may not be all that, but I live in the happy land of "I'll vote for a log before I'll vote for Duhbya." Wildrider, I've been reading about how quickly temps have warmed in your neck of the woods. From the 50s to the 90s in a week or so. I guess Mother Nature doesn't believe in half-steps. Anyhow, I'd take some of that warmth right about now, as we just suffered through another week of snow and cold. I'll be in Vegas at the end of April, but April just can't come soon enough, if you know what I mean. What's wrong with you, Wildrider?!! If you want to find out who's who, you can always shell out $20 for one of those nifty, economical team programs. ;D Listen, I'm right there with you on the "anyone but Bush" bandwagon. 'Course, I've modified it as follows: anyone but Bush and Kerry.
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Mar 21, 2004 16:34:10 GMT -5
Post by Mr._Shooter on Mar 21, 2004 16:34:10 GMT -5
LS, no one picks apart a post better than you. Regarding my "long walk off a short pier" comment...I'll make good on that promise (and maybe even wear the Dodgers cap) as soon as Alec Baldwin makes good on his 2000 promise. ;D Regarding the congeniality contest thing, LS, understood and agreed. But even if I were to base my vote on who would make the best leader, Kerry comes up short. His scowl is one thing; his wishy-washy track record simply seals the deal (IMHO, of course).
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Mar 25, 2004 23:09:43 GMT -5
Post by LS on Mar 25, 2004 23:09:43 GMT -5
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Mar 26, 2004 2:17:19 GMT -5
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